We have another special episode! Today, Rollie from @ClimateTown joins us to discuss clean energy and the climate crisis. Specifically, he helps us understand some of the promises that big tech companies companies like Apple and Google have been making when it comes to the climate. Like what is a carbon credit? And what the heck is a Duck curve? We hope you learn as much as we did in this fun chat!

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00:00 Intro
01:31 Climate Town backstory
08:49 What are Carbon Emissions?
25:08 Visible (Sponsored)
26:54 What is Clean Energy?
47:40 Netsuite (Sponsored)
48:52 Recycling
01:08:11 Quick Hit Questions
01:11:00 A Race to Z with Rollie
01:20:52 Outro

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32 thoughts on “How Sustainable Are Tech Companies, Really?”
  1. 1:03:42 nah, we don't "get to vote with our wallets", the only thing that votes in capitalism is profit. not volume, not efficiency, not net-zero, not ethics, not health, not technology, not recycling … only profits, if the profits are unsatisfactory even they lose their vote as greed always has a veto.

  2. I know some of the companies are trying to reduce carbon emissions but I’m still going to complain and put down capitalism and corporations. Because not all people know they are the problem.

  3. Better than any of those measures would be to purchase phones less often, and buy second hand when you do. If Apple was at all sincere about environmental measures, they would make their phones last longer, and more easy to repair. Marques does a huge disservice by encouraging hyper-consumerism in the manner that he does. It's not a mindset that should be normalised.

  4. Second segment just ending in "new Apple Watch, Apple doing great thing" and generally throughout the video putting so much emphasis on Apple makes this look really sketch to me.

  5. Not repairable. 1:06:06 Cannot be "green" and not repairable. Hope Climate Town reaches out to Louis Rossmann. I always appreciate his intensity on corpos effing us.

  6. I think this is the best episode you ever did and the most important too. We need to check these companies continuously. Ask the questions, Marques! It's important.

  7. A company shouldn’t be considered sustainable unless they prioritize repairability over replaceability.

    Levi’s and Patagonia have clothing repair programs where you can bring one of their products to their store no matter how old and you can get it repaired for free instead of buying a new product.

    Apple is openly hostile to customers repairing their own devices and if a $15 chip is bad on a $1500 motherboard for a MacBook they can’t replace the chip and instead have to replace the whole motherboard which is just as expensive as buying a new computer, so it motivates the buyer to throw out their old computer and buy a new one.

  8. this is a very long apple commercial
    ps: green certificates are bullshit and if you look into small hydro placed on mountain creeks they are so bad for environment and so ineffective so many and the only reason they exist is green certificates

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